Skip to content
New issue

Have a question about this project? Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community.

By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and privacy statement. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails.

Already on GitHub? Sign in to your account

CODE_OF_CONDUCT: refine the scope #15

Open
wants to merge 1 commit into
base: master
Choose a base branch
from

Conversation

7c6f434c
Copy link
Member

@7c6f434c 7c6f434c commented Mar 9, 2024

As there was a discussion about things covered or not covered by the code, I tried to include the clarification given into the text.

@@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ Examples of unacceptable behavior by participants include:

* The use of sexualized language or imagery and unwelcome sexual attention or advances
* Trolling, insulting/derogatory comments, and personal or political attacks
* Posting links to insulting, derogatory, or attacking content (except when discussing moderation of content or links already posted in the community)
Copy link
Member

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

This point is more nuanced than the others on the list; there are a lot of contextual factors that would affect whether I see a particular link to such content as acceptable or unacceptable. I don't think we should have items on the list of unacceptable behavior that aren't clear-cut prohibitions. This isn't meant to be exhaustive, or a legalistic procedure for deciding what is or is not acceptable behavior.

Copy link
Member Author

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

Maybe I should try to word it in the scope part about directly linked content is treated close to quoted. It is not from the point of view of legalistic procedure, more like documentation.

The code is more useful the better it communicates the policies actually followed, and would prefer to take Jonathan's question «so which of the parts» at face value (and make it clear from the text as posted).

Copy link
Member

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

directly linked content is treated close to quoted

I don't think that's quite it either. The link is the expression in our space; like any other expression, its interpretation is down to context. In many contexts, a posted link will be seen as an endorsement of the linked subject, in which case the linker's expression of endorsement is what gets judged against our community values. This interpretation is particularly likely if the linker is also the author of the linked content. But it's also easily possible to link content that doesn't comport with our values in a context that gets interpreted as the opposite of an endorsement, and that can be fine. One could also link perfectly innocuous content in a negative context, and once again it's the interpretation of the expression that matters.

I can't think of a succinct way to summarize this that isn't near-tautological or doesn't paint with too broad a brush. ‘Unacceptable behavior expressed through non-textual media, such as images, links, or emoji, is still unacceptable’?

Copy link
Member Author

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

That does sound to me like something rather clearly covering the case in question.

Copy link

@jonringer jonringer Mar 9, 2024

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

I still think insulting, derogatory, or attacking content is still pretty open to interpretation.

My alternative wording: #16

Copy link
Member Author

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

Just in case: as I have applied the suggestion by @rhendric now «links to …» is no longer there

CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md Outdated Show resolved Hide resolved
@7c6f434c
Copy link
Member Author

Any other feedback (or any deficiencies in addressing the existing feedback)?

Or should I squash and re-push?

Copy link

@jonringer jonringer left a comment

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

My approval doesn't mean much here. But I think these changes are in alignment of the CoC and contributor covenant.

@7c6f434c
Copy link
Member Author

I don't think alignment with upstream covenant matters, but I hope that the current version of the patch doesn't change the direction of the code and makes the details describe the current practice and intentions slightly clearer.

@7c6f434c 7c6f434c force-pushed the master branch 2 times, most recently from e789f95 to d0bad45 Compare March 27, 2024 11:46
@jonringer
Copy link

I don't think alignment with upstream covenant matters, but I hope that the current version of the patch doesn't change the direction of the code and makes the details describe the current practice and intentions slightly clearer.

I agree. However, I also agree that the covenant seems to be a reasonable way to run a diverse technology-centric community.

Sign up for free to join this conversation on GitHub. Already have an account? Sign in to comment
Labels
None yet
Projects
None yet
Development

Successfully merging this pull request may close these issues.

4 participants